I'm still alive but I'm barely livin
Stopped praying to a God that I don't believe in
Now I got time but I still got no freedom
Cause when faith breaks no it don't break even
My best times are now some of my worst,
I used to love learning and davening, had a spiritual thirst
Now I'm wide awake and have trouble sleeping
'cause when faith breaks no it don't break even, even
What am I supposed to do when the best part of me says this just isn’t true, and
What am I supposed to say when everyone around me thinks everything is ok
I'm falling to pieces yeah
I'm falling to pieces
They say that everything happens for a reason
But I’ve found no wise words to stop the bleeding
'Cause millions die while we’re still believin
And when faith breaks no it don't break even, even ohhhh
What am I supposed to do when the best part of me says this just isn’t true, and
What am I supposed to say when everyone around me thinks everything is ok
I'm falling to pieces, yea
I'm falling to pieces
Oh you destroyed our faith but avoided the pain
You took the fame - but I took the blame
Now I'm trying to make sense of what little remains
Cause you left me with no faith but you care more about your good name
I'm still alive but I'm barely livin
Stopped praying to a God that I don't believe in
Now I got time but I still got no freedom
Cause when faith breaks no it don't break even
What am I supposed to do when the best part of me says this just isn’t true, and
What am I supposed to say when everyone around me thinks everything is ok
I'm falling to pieces, yea
I'm falling to pieces
Oh it don't break even no,ohh
it don't break even no, ohh
It don't break even no
22 comments:
Kesher was the bomb...
Pyramids? Seriously?
I suggest you take your parody down, it reveals too much :)
"...it reveals to much :)"
Yeah, can't you wear something more tzniusdik?
"a God that I don't believe in..."
Actually, you never really did. You once believed in the childish version of God that you imbibed as a toddler. And you so badly want that childish belief to be true, that you cannot bring yourself to seriously consider a more sophisticated, albeit less black and white, conception.
On an unrelated note,it is very sad these days what passes for Jewish music. We were once able to create our own genres of music, and not merely parrot the songs of others, with different lyrics.
"We were once able to create our own genres..." yea, like MBD's Yidden!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhqQcYYyY7I
"you cannot bring yourself to seriously consider a more sophisticated..."
just becasue YOU are more sophisticated, does not mean that God becomes more sophisticated, its the same God, made up by humans to explain suffering, earthquakes and rain. not too sophisticated
Ksil,
"like MBD's Yidden!"
MBD style music is precisely what I decry. I was thinking more of Klezmer, Yiddish songs, chazzanut, and classical compositions [e.g. Bernstein's "Kaddish" or "Jeremiah" symphonies], etc.
"Klezmer, Yiddish songs, chazzanut"
i am sure that in those days, there were plenty of "moshes" that decried that type of music. oy, how could klezmer pass as jewish!! it sounds just like the poilish radio stations!!!
no goyish influence, i am sure - pure as the driven snow.
go back to the beis medrash
Ksil,
"no goyish influence"
I did not say that. For sure, Jewish music, like virtually any other, has always been influenced by the surrounding culture, and vice versa. But it generally involved a synthesis, and not merely an aping of the rather vulgar aspects of the prevalent culture, with a few Hebrew words thrown in. All this has been documented by ethno-musicologists.
"just becasue YOU are more sophisticated, does not mean that God becomes more sophisticated, its the same God, made up by humans to explain suffering, earthquakes and rain. not too sophisticated
"
Did you know, that not once in any classic Jewish literature is god used to explain suffering, earthquakes or rain.
Suffering is actually a Jewish question against G-d. Earthquakes are not really discussed, and the type of rain we get is used to explain if G-d is happy or upset with us, but G-d is not used to explain rain itself. Instead the Gemorah says that Rain comes from a cycle of water that goes to the oceans then into the sky then comes back. It is only the timing and type of rain that we use to explain G-d, not the other way around.
But thanks for showing us your childish and uneducated understanding of things!
Infact, the only type of suffering attributed to G-d is Tzarat, which is a special non-existant disease which some in the Gemorah say never even happened.
"Actually, you never really did. You once believed in the childish version of God that you imbibed as a toddler. And you so badly want that childish belief to be true, that you cannot bring yourself to seriously consider a more sophisticated, albeit less black and white, conception."
Lol Moses, you are one wacky dude. Almost as if a someone were to chastise his friends for not believing in Santa Clause anymore because their conception of him wasn't sophisticated enough. My point here isn't that God is make-believe, that much is obvious, but rather that it is an inherently childish idea.
Purity is something the adults have to do away with. Gods are always built on some conception of purity (e.g. omnipotents, omniscience, omnipresence, pan-existence, moral, purposeful, central, "truth".) When you start dirtying your gods it becomes questionable how godly they really are (e.g. the Greek pantheon.)
sos,
You use words without meaning or example.
Which vision is more based on "purity"?
1. If I want something, I ask a man in the clouds with a big white beard to give to me, and if I'm worthy, I will get it.
2. If I want something, I buy it with symbolic money.
Which is more "adult"?
SOS--
"My point here isn't that God is make-believe, that much is obvious"
Stephen J. Gould--
"Either half my colleagues are enormously stupid, or else ... science ... is fully compatible with conventional religious beliefs..."
Hmm.
Anon, I gave plenty of examples. Neither of your "visions" have anything to do with what I was talking about. Nor do I really understand why you are asking me about Santa Clause and Monopoly.
Moses, by "conventional religious beliefs" you mean the "childish version of God... imbibed as a toddler"? Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too.
what is the parody song based on???
"Moses, by "conventional religious beliefs" you mean the "childish version of God... imbibed as a toddler"? Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too."
1. It's Moshe, not Moses. You're not being sarcastic, are you?
2. The words were Gould's not mine. He's dead, so we can't ask him what he meant. I think he probably was referring to theism in general, not to any specific conception.
"Anon, I gave plenty of examples. Neither of your "visions" have anything to do with what I was talking about."
You spouted out random words. You gave no examples.
I was applying your notion of purity as being a childish thing to other areas of life. There is nothing childish about purity. There isn't any correlation at all.
Is Sugar and water and colored syrups more adult then purified spring water?
If you think I was talking about Monopoly or Santa Clause, then you really don't know much about monopoly or Santa Clause.
A. There is no concept of Santa Clause living in the sky.
B. There is nothing symbolic about the money in Monopoly.
Santa Claus has no "e".
Don't be silly :)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111070/
Also, never sign a contract with a sanity clause.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Night_at_the_Opera_(film)#Contract_scene
Every facet of the universe is so unbelievably complex, that any
single element within the whole sufficiently testifies to the
handiwork of the Creator.
If a magnificent work of art cannot be formed by merely spilling paint, certainly the entire world cannot have been fashioned by accident.
For the logical mind, seemingly there is nothing more irrational than suggesting G-d did not create the world. Scientists will admit "The probability of a monkey exactly typing a complete work such as Shakespeare's Hamlet is so tiny that the chance of it occurring during a period of time of the order of the age of the universe is extremely low, but not zero.
If any honest person would look at his life and count how many
miracles and kindnesses that have occurred to him vs. how much
suffering, it would become clear that the message of the universe is
one of love and kindness. I do not mean only big things like winning the lottery or sitting on the beach in Hawaii and eating fresh pineapple with a gorgeous woman at your side.
The fact that you can see, that your eyes can notice people whom you have not seen for years and recall their name and favorite baseball team, that your ears can hear music and all of a sudden hear three notes of song you have not heard in 25 years and know what it is, when you last heard it and whom you heard it with... Just for the human eye
to work properly it takes millions of constantly occurring miracles. If any one little thing is off kilter the whole thing falls apart. Then there is the heart, circulatory system, reproductive system,
brain, memory, deja vu, dreams, the Beatles. Endless miracles and
incredible acts of love and kindness seem to be happening all the time, non stop all around the world, every second of every day.
Moshe,
1. Ah, so it is not just a handle. I appologize then for offending you.
2. In some sense it would be easy to determine though wouldn't it? Simply take a survery among paleontologists and see which percentage believes what. Not that any of this matters. We know a good many seemingly reasonable people beleive in a personal diety named Jesus. Surely then this does not make them "enormously stupid" even if you may vehemently disagree with their position? Or perhaps it does, in which case Gould's observation is more of an inadvertent underhanded insult.
As it turns out, you don't even see eye to eye with most of your fellow orthodox's conception of god. What this means is hard to say since the assortment of conceptions of god are undoubtably overlapping magisteria.
Anon,
First, may I suggest that if you are going to take all this time to respond to me then you may as well spend a few more moments and attach a name, even a temporary one, to your arguments. Anonymity is one thing, but you are just playing in the shadows.
I think I see where this misunderstanding is coming from. It seems as if you have mistaken my concept of "purity" for Aquafina water, "Purity Guaranteed"! This naturally leads me to question how sincere your arguments are to begin with. This is only aggravated by your indignation over the suggested residence of Santa. To top it off, you don't see Monopoly, including the "monopoly money" as symbolic? I don't know..
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